CERTIFIED PARENTING COACH
This advanced certification combines the ICF Code of Ethics with Child, Adolescent Development and Parenting (CADP) competencies, equipping you to coach parents through an ethical and developmentally informed approach that promotes confident and responsible parenting.
PROGRAM AT A GLANCE

ICF Level 1 Accredited Program

60 Coach Education Training

Delivered in English

Program Pathway towards ACC credential
Upcoming Cohort Only3 Seats Left
Starts February 06 , 2027
Join the waitlist by enrolling now to secure your spot. The next cohort will start on the above date mentioned.
Starts February 06 , 2027
Join the waitlist by enrolling now to secure your spot. The next cohort will start on the above date mentioned.
CERTIFIED PARENTING COACH
This advanced certification combines the ICF Code of Ethics with Child, Adolescent Development and Parenting (CADP) competencies, equipping you to coach parents through an ethical and developmentally informed approach that promotes confident and responsible parenting.
PROGRAM AT A GLANCE

ICF Level 1 Accredited Program

60 Coach Education Training

Delivered in English

Program Pathway towards ACC credential
Upcoming Cohort Only3 Seats Left
Starts February 06 , 2027
Join the waitlist by enrolling now to secure your spot. The next cohort will start on the above date mentioned.
Starts February 06 , 2027
Join the waitlist by enrolling now to secure your spot. The next cohort will start on the above date mentioned.
CERTIFIED PARENTING COACH
This advanced certification combines the ICF Code of Ethics with Child, Adolescent Development and Parenting (CADP) competencies, equipping you to coach parents through an ethical and developmentally informed approach that promotes confident and responsible parenting.
PROGRAM AT A GLANCE

ICF Level 1 Accredited Program

60 Coach Education Training

Delivered in English

Program Pathway towards ACC credential
Upcoming Cohort Only3 Seats Left
Starts February 06 , 2027
Join the waitlist by enrolling now to secure your spot. The next cohort will start on the above date mentioned.
Starts February 06 , 2027
Join the waitlist by enrolling now to secure your spot. The next cohort will start on the above date mentioned.

Live Online Classes via Zoom
Join interactive, instructor-led sessions from anywhere in the world. Participate in live discussions, coaching demonstrations, group activities, and peer practice through Zoom.

In-Person Classes in Bangkok
Learn face-to-face in Bangkok through an engaging classroom experience. Connect directly with faculty and fellow participants through discussions, practical exercises, and coaching practice.
What is the Certified CADP Coach program?
This internationally recognized program meets all requirements for an ICF Level 1 Accredited Coaching Education Program. You will gain a solid understanding of the 8 Core Coaching Competencies as defined by the International Coaching Federation — the global gold standard for professional coaching.
In Level 1, you will learn how to:
- Integrate attachment principles as the foundation of every coaching engagement
- Establish a 360° parenting vision using Ignite Global’s exclusive Panoramic Parenting Vision Model
- Create deep psychological safety to navigate sensitive personal and family matters
- Maintain healthy professional boundaries within complex family dynamics
- Communicate effectively in challenging situations with advanced coaching techniques
- Guide parents with confidence, offering practical, tailored strategies unique to each family system and more.
Program Overview
The Certified Parenting Coach program is designed to equip emerging coaches with the foundational skills, ethical grounding, and practical tools needed to support parents with confidence and compassion. Whether you’re new to coaching or looking to specialize in parenting and family dynamics, this program offers a clear pathway toward ICF accreditation and professional growth. Below is a brief overview of what the program entails.

ICF-accredited Training Hours
60 hours of ICF-accredited hours delivered at Level 1 towards the ACC Credential

(Optional) ICF ACC Credential Bundle
Coach Education + Mentor Coaching + Performance Evaluation for ACC Credential Application

Program Duration
Can be completed in 6 months

ICF-accredited Training
Hours
60 hours of ICF-accredited hours delivered at Level 1 towards the ACC Credential

(Optional) ICF ACC Credential Bundle
Coach Education + Mentor Coaching + Performance Evaluation for ACC Credential Application

Program Duration
Can be completed in 6 months
Comprehensive Program Details
Certification & Designation
- Certification: Professional Coaching Mastery Certification
- Designation: Certified Parenting Coach
Prerequisite
- No prerequisites are required.
Detailed Duration & Delivery
- 6 months of twice-a-month live classes
- Live classes (via Zoom) twice a month on Saturdays, 7:00–10:00 PM (Bangkok time)
- Recordings available on our e-learning platform, Awaken Mind Guide
(Optional) ACC Credential Bundle
- Includes all ACC requirements: Group + Individual Mentoring (3-6 months)
- We liaise with ICF; no need to submit recordings yourself
- ACC exam practice test
Extended Program Coverage
Foundational Child and Adolescent Development Education
While Level 1 focuses on coaching the adults in a child’s life, it also introduces key developmental concepts to ensure your coaching is both developmentally informed and contextually relevant.
Topics include:
- Attachment theory and its practical application in coaching parents
- Ecology of Parenting
- Family systems and parenting styles
- Early introduction to trauma sensitivity and resilience-building
- Nervous System Regulation and Polyvagal Theory
- Overview of child and adolescent development, from early childhood through adolescence
- And more
This foundational yet crucial knowledge allows you to guide parents with a clearer understanding of how their child’s developmental stage shapes behavior, communication, and connection.
Start Where Families Need You Most
Level 1 is more than an introduction — it’s a practical, heart-centered training that empowers you to support families in the everyday moments that shape a child’s future.
Whether you’re just beginning your coaching journey or expanding your professional toolkit, Level 1 of the CADP Certification equips you to step confidently into the role of Parenting Coach — grounded in science, fueled by empathy, and guided by global coaching standards.











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In this video, Her Royal Highness The Princess of Wales, Catherine, highlights the #ShapingUs campaign and its mission to raise awareness of early childhood and adolescent development. Her message aligns closely with Ignite Global’s CADP program, which equips coaches to support the emotional, social, and developmental needs of young people and their families.
Programme Timeline
Enroll & Access the Platform
After enrollment, access to the online learning platform will be provided within 24 hours.
Start learning immediately with 24/7 access and study at your own pace.
Join Live Classes
Attend live sessions with expert instructors and global peers.
Ask questions, share insights, and apply learning in real time.
Mentorship & Guidance
Work with your assigned mentor through group or individual mentoring sessions.
Prepare for your ICF ACC Credential or continue to the next program step.
Complete Requirements
Finish your 6-month program and submit all required assessments.
Credential bundle learners complete five structured ACC requirements with full support.
Get Certified
Pass the ICF ACC Credentialing Exam and earn your certification.
Become an internationally recognized ICF ACC-credentialed coach.
Who is this certification for?
Aspiring Coaches
Certified Coaches Seeking Specialization
Parenting Coaches & Family Counselors
Therapists, Psychologists, & Social Workers
Mental Health & Child Development Professionals
Educators & School Counselors
Parenting & Childcare Professionals
Community & Youth Leaders
Corporate & Workplace Coaches
Our Teaching Approach
We teach coaching as both a skillset and a way of thinking. This program combines live instruction, real-time practice, mentor feedback, and peer learning to create a deeply experiential environment. What sets it apart is the integration of applied psychology and neuroscience—giving you practical tools to understand behavior, support change, and coach with insight and intention. You’ll learn by doing, supported by experienced instructors who bring both depth and humanity to the process.
Lux Hettiyadura
Lux Hettiyadura is an esteemed Parenting and Child Development Specialist (Trauma and Attachment Informed) dedicated to transforming the way we approach parenting, child development, education and family well-being. At Ignite Global, she leads groundbreaking initiatives in Child Development, Parenting, Family Wellness, and Educational Interventions, setting a new standard in these fields.
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Your Enrollment Option
Includes the following:
Certified Parenting Coach
(3 Seats Left)
Program Fee: 1900 USD 1800 USD
Applied with 100 USD Early Bird Discount
ICF 60 Coach Education Hours for ACC Credential Application
Kindly note: The certificate you receive from this program is the ICF ACSTH Certificate. If you want to receive the ICF Level 1 Certificate, you may explore the ICF ACC Credential Bundle option.
Designation: Certified Parenting Coach
Gain Coaching Experience Hours through Ignite Accelerator Program
Blend of Self-paced Learning and Interactive Virtual Live Classes
Your Starting Point to Professional Coaching
ICF ACC Credential Bundle through CADP
(3 Seats Left)
Program Fee: 3490 USD 3050 USD
(Save 440 USD)
Applied with 100 USD Early Bird Discount
All-inclusive Bundle towards Achieving the ICF ACC Credential
ICF 60 Certification Hours for ACC Credential Application
Designation: Certified Parenting Coach
Receive ICF Level 1 Certification
Includes 24 Group Mentoring and 3 Individual Mentoring Hours
Internal Assessment of Your Coaching Recording (Performance Evaluation)
New ICF Credentialing Exam Practice Test (unlimited tries for 30 Days)
Gain Coaching Experience Hours through Ignite Accelerator Program
Blend of Self-paced Learning and Interactive Virtual Live Classes
Ignite Business Incubator (Six months of business coaching guiding you to strategize your Coaching Business from scratch to success)
Ignite Business Mastermind (Twelve months of proven business development & marketing strategies via live masterclasses)
Your Starting Point to Professional Coaching
Trauma-informed Parenting Advanced Coach Practitioner
Investment: 5700 USD 3800 USD
ICF 60 Certification Hours for ACC Credential Application ICF Level One Coach Education
60 ICF-accredited Specialized Coach Education Hours (Trauma-informed)
Designation & Specialization: Trauma-informed Parenting Advanced Coach Practitioner
Trauma-informed Parenting Advanced Coach Practitioner Certificate
12 Live Sessions within 6 Months (Twice a month Live Classes) For CADP
12 Live Sessions within 6 Months (Twice a month Live Classes) For Trauma-informed
Blend of Self-paced Learning and Interactive Virtual Live Classes
Access to Ignite E-Learning Platform, Awaken Mind Guide
Advanced Mastery of Knowledge and Skills
Certified Parenting Coach (3 Seats Left)
Program Fee: 1900 USD 1800 USD
Applied with 100 USD Early Bird Discount
ICF 60 Coach Education Hours for ACC Credential Application
Kindly note: The certificate you receive from this program is the ICF ACSTH Certificate. If you want to receive the ICF Level 1 Certificate, you may explore the ICF ACC Credential Bundle option.
Blend of Self-paced Learning and Interactive Virtual Live Classes
You can find this program through the ESS Education Search Service on the ICF website.
Your Starting Point to Professional Coaching
ICF ACC Credential Bundle through CADP (3 Seats Left)
Program Fee: 3490 USD 3050 USD
(Save 440 USD)
Applied with 100 USD Early Bird Discount
All-inclusive Bundle towards Achieving the ICF ACC Credential
ICF 60 Certification Hours for ACC Credential Application
Designation: Certified Parenting Coach
Receive ICF Level 1 Certification
Includes 24 Group Mentoring and 3 Individual Mentoring Hours
Internal Assessment of Your Coaching Recording (Performance Evaluation)
New ICF Credentialing Exam Practice Test (unlimited tries for 30 Days)
Gain Coaching Experience Hours through Ignite Accelerator Program
Blend of Self-paced Learning and Interactive Virtual Live Classes
Ignite Business Incubator (Six months of business coaching guiding you to strategize your Coaching Business from scratch to success)
Ignite Business Mastermind (Twelve months of proven business development & marketing strategies via live masterclasses)
Your Starting Point to Professional Coaching
Trauma-informed Parenting Advanced Coach Practitioner
Investment: 5700 USD 3800 USD
ICF 60 Certification Hours for ACC Credential Application
ICF Level One Coach Education
60 ICF-accredited Specialized Coach Education Hours (Trauma-informed)
Designation & Specialization: Trauma-informed Parenting Advanced Coach Practitioner
Trauma-informed Parenting Advanced Coach Practitioner Certificate
12 Live Sessions within 6 Months (Twice a month Live Classes) For CADP
12 Live Sessions within 6 Months (Twice a month Live Classes) For Trauma-informed
Blend of Self-paced Learning and Interactive Virtual Live Classes
Access to Ignite E-Learning Platform, Awaken Mind Guide
Advanced Mastery of Knowledge and Skills
Frequently asked questions
What certification will I receive when I complete the program?
It depends on the enrollment option you choose.
If you enroll in the Certified Parenting Coach program, you’ll receive an ICF 60 ACSTH Certificate, which fulfills the coach education requirement for applying for the ACC credential through the traditional ICF pathway.
If you choose the ICF ACC Credential Bundle through CADP, you’ll receive an ICF Level 1 Certificate, which qualifies you to apply for the ACC credential through ICF’s streamlined Level 1 application path.
Both options provide recognized coach education aligned with ICF standards — the main difference is the pathway you’ll follow when applying for your credential.
Do I need previous experience with children, parenting, or coaching to join?
No experience is required. The program is beginner-friendly and is designed to train you specifically in parenting coaching — helping you develop the skills to coach parents and caregivers, using proven tools and frameworks rooted in child and adolescent development.
Is the program delivered online?
The program is fully online. You’ll attend live Zoom classes twice a month for about six months. If you miss a session, you can watch the recording on the learning platform at your convenience.
Will I be ready to coach real parents and families after completion?
Yes. You’ll leave with the tools and confidence to start coaching parents and families in a real-world setting, using your knowledge of development and coaching practices.
Can this certification help me if I already have a coaching background?
Yes. This program builds on your existing coaching skills with a focused specialization in parenting coaching. You’ll deepen your understanding of child and adolescent development, family dynamics, and how to effectively coach parents through real-life parenting challenges.
Is this recognized by ICF?
Yes. This program is ICF-accredited and provides 60 coach education hours that count toward the ACC credential.
Do I automatically receive the ICF ACC credential after completing this course?
It depends on which program you enroll in.
In the Enrollment options, if you choose the Certified Parenting Coach pathway, you’ll complete the ICF-accredited coach education required for ACC, but you will still need to fulfill the remaining ICF requirements — such as coaching hours, mentor coaching, and the ICF Credentialing Exam — and apply directly to ICF.
If you choose the ICF ACC Credential Bundle through CADP, this is an all-inclusive pathway that includes coach education, mentor coaching, and performance evaluation. While you’re still responsible for completing the 100 required coaching hours, Ignite Global provides a platform and guidance to help you gain those hours. You’ll also receive access to a practice test to help you prepare for the ICF Credentialing Exam. Once all components are completed, you’ll be eligible to apply directly to ICF through the Level 1 application path.
Is this program suitable if I’m parenting now and want to improve my own parenting skills not necessarily coach others?
Yes. Many participants take the program to improve their own parenting. You’ll learn how to better understand your child, manage challenges, and build stronger relationships — whether or not you plan to coach others.
What kind of support will I receive during training?
You’ll get live classes, recorded content, access to a private learning platform, and a clear curriculum covering development, coaching skills, and family dynamics.

Enroll in Level 1 Accredited Coaching Education Program below!
In the following cases, please reach out to Leah via WhatsApp (+66 96 695 9667) or via email at [email protected]:
Enrolling ICF ACC Credential
Enrolling in ICF Specialized Certifications
Strategizing your Professional Development
Enroll Now
You can enroll right away by clicking Enroll Now and completing the short form to confirm your registration. If you prefer to speak with one of our ICF Educators before joining and want clarity on the program or your learning pathway, select Schedule a Call to book a conversation at your convenience.
Program Overview
Begin Your Journey as Confident , Creditable Coach
This ICF Level One certification program is designed to meet the foundational requirements for becoming a professionally certified coach. Whether you’re beginning your coaching journey or formalizing existing experience, this program offers the essential components to support your development and credentialing with the ICF. Below, you’ll find key details about training hours, optional credentialing support, and flexible program duration to help you plan your path forward.

ICF-accredited Training Hours
60 hours of ICF-accredited hours delivered at Level 1 towards the ACC Credential

(Optional) ICF ACC Credential Bundle
Coach Education + Mentor Coaching + Performance Evaluation for ACC Credential Application

Program Duration
Can be completed in 6 months. For the accelerated path, it can be
3 months.
What You'll Learn
Throughout the program, you’ll build a strong base in core coaching skills while expanding your capacity for presence, emotional intelligence, and client-centered communication. You’ll learn how to:
- Apply the ICF Core Competencies in real coaching conversations
- Navigate client goals, values, and limiting patterns with clarity
- Use evidence-informed tools from applied psychology and neuroscience
- Develop a reflective practice that supports your growth as a coach
- Prepare effectively for ICF performance evaluation and credentialing
Comprehensive Program Details
Certification & Designation
- Certification: Professional Coaching Mastery Certification
- Designation: Certified Coach Practitioner
- No prerequisites are required for this certification.
Detailed Duration & Delivery
- 6 months of twice-a-month live classes
- Live classes (via Zoom) twice a month on Wednesdays, 7:00–10:00 PM (Bangkok time)
- Recordings available on our e-learning platform, Awaken Mind Guide
(Optional) ACC Credential Bundle
- Includes all ACC requirements: Group + Individual Mentoring (3 – 6 months)
- We liaise with ICF; no need to submit recordings yourself
- ACC exam practice test
Our Teaching Approach
We teach coaching as both a skillset and a way of thinking. This program combines live instruction, real-time practice, mentor feedback, and peer learning to create a deeply experiential environment. What sets it apart is the integration of applied psychology and neuroscience, giving you practical tools to understand behavior, support change, and coach with insight and intention. You’ll learn by doing, supported by experienced instructors who bring both depth and humanity to the process.
This integration is grounded in our approach to Applied Psychology and Neuroscience Integrated Coaching. By understanding how the brain forms habits, processes emotion, and responds to change, you’ll develop the ability to coach in a way that aligns with how transformation truly happens. You’ll be equipped to support clients in shifting long-held patterns, not just at the level of thought, but at the level of lived experience. It’s a practical, science-informed path to coaching that creates real and lasting impact.
Trajectory of Achieving the ICF ACC Credential
Enroll and Start the Online Component
After enrolling in your chosen certification, a member of the Ignite Global team will grant you access to the online component within 24 hours. This quick turnaround allows you to dive into the course materials and begin your studies right away. With 24/7 access, you can engage with the content at your own pace, ensuring a flexible and convenient learning experience.
Step 1Join the Live Classes
Join the live classes to engage directly with expert instructors and fellow participants, creating a dynamic and interactive learning environment. These sessions offer the opportunity to ask questions, share insights, and apply the course content in real time. You’ll also have the chance to co-create with a global community of coaches who are also enrolled in the program, fostering collaboration and diverse perspectives as you learn and grow together.
Step 2Work with Your Designated Mentor
For coaches who are enrolled in the credential bundle, join the group mentoring sessions to start preparing for your ICF ACC Credential Application. Once you are ready for Performance Evaluation, schedule an Individual Mentoring session with your mentor. For coaches enrolled in the ICF Level 1 Coach Education only, proceed to Step 4.
Get CertifiedComplete Your Program/Credential Requirements
After completing the 6 months of live classes, complete the assessment requirements and submit to receive your program certification. For coaches enrolled in the credential bundle, there are five requirements for attaining the ICF ACC Credential. The ICF ACC Credential Bundle from Ignite Global offers the support and guidance needed to meet these requirements. With Ignite Global, you’ll have expert assistance at every step to ensure your success in obtaining your ACC credential.
Step 4Obtain ICF Certification
Upon successfully passing the ICF ACC Credentialing Exam, you will earn the ICF ACC Credential. This certification designates you as an ICF ACC-credentialed coach. It highlights your professional expertise and dedication to coaching at a global standard.
Step 5
Your Lead Facilitator
Fernando Hettiyadura
Executive Coaching Leader & Master Coach
Fernando Hettiyadura is a pioneering specialist in professional coaching, psychotherapy, and spiritual practices encompassing Psychedelic Integration as the center of his interventions. As an Eclectic Psychotherapist, a Master Certified Coach (MCC) accredited by the International Coaching Federation (ICF), and a serial entrepreneur, he leads a global movement toward conscious living and healing through his visionary organizations—Ignite Global, Evolving Temple, and Awaken Mind Guide.
Certified Coach Practitioner
Investment: 1900 USD
ICF 60 Coach Education Hours for ACC Credential Application
Kindly note: The certificate you receive from this program is the ICF ACSTH Certificate. If you want to receive the ICF Level 1 Certificate, you may explore the ICF ACC Credential Bundle option.
Blend of Self-paced Learning and Interactive Virtual Live Classes
You can find this program through the ESS Education Search Service on the ICF website.
Your Starting Point to Professional Coaching
ICF ACC Credential Bundle
Investment: 3150 USD
All-inclusive Bundle towards Achieving the ICF ACC Credential
ICF Certification Hours for ACC Credential Application
Receive ICF Level 1 Certification
Includes 24 Group Mentoring and 3 Individual Mentoring Hours
Internal Assessment of Your Coaching Recording (Performance Evaluation)
New ICF Credentialing Exam Practice Test (unlimited tries for 30 Days)
Blend of Self-paced Learning and Interactive Virtual Live Classes
You can find this program through the ESS Education Search Service on the ICF website.
Your Starting Point to Professional Coaching
ICF PCC Credential Bundle
Reach Out to Enroll
All-inclusive Bundle towards Achieving the ICF ACC Credential
ICF Certification Hours for ACC Credential Application
Receive ICF Level 1 Certification
Includes 24 Group Mentoring and 3 Individual Mentoring Hours
Internal Assessment of Your Coaching Recording (Performance Evaluation)
New ICF Credentialing Exam Practice Test (unlimited tries for 30 Days)
Blend of Self-paced Learning and Interactive Virtual Live Classes
You can find this program through the ESS Education Search Service on the ICF website.
Your Starting Point to Professional Coaching
ICF MCC Credential Bundle
Reach Out to Enroll
All-inclusive Bundle towards Achieving the ICF ACC, PCC, & MCC Credential
ICF Certification Hours for ACC, PCC, & MCC Credential Application
Receive ICF Level 1, 2, & Level 3 Certification
Includes 24 Group Mentoring and 10 Individual Mentoring Hours
Initial Internal Assessment of Your Coaching Recording (Performance Evaluation)
New ICF Credentialing Exam Practice Test (unlimited tries for 30 Days)
Blend of Self-paced Learning and Interactive Virtual Live Classes
You can find this program through the ESS Education Search Service on the ICF website.
Your Starting Point to Professional Coaching
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Frequently asked questions
Is this an ICF-accredited program, and why does it matter?
Yes. This program is accredited by the International Coaching Federation (ICF), the world’s leading organization for professional coaching.
ICF accreditation ensures the program meets internationally recognized standards for coach education. It also allows you to use the training toward an ICF credential, giving your coaching qualifications greater credibility and global recognition.
What is the difference between the Certified Coach Practitioner and the ICF ACC Credential Bundle?
The Certified Coach Practitioner includes coach education training only. It is ideal if you want to develop your coaching skills or already have the additional requirements needed for an ICF credential.
The ICF ACC Credential Bundle includes everything in the Certified Coach Practitioner, plus Mentor Coaching and additional support to help you complete your ICF ACC Credential application. It is an all-inclusive pathway designed for those seeking the ICF Associate Certified Coach (ACC) credential
Can I enroll in the Certified Coach Practitioner first and add the ICF Mentoring Program later?
Yes. You can begin with the Certified Coach Practitioner and later enroll in the ICF Mentoring Program to pursue your ACC credential.
However, choosing the ICF ACC Credential Bundle from the beginning offers greater savings than enrolling in each program separately.
Do I need a background in psychology or coaching to join?
No prior experience is needed. The program is designed for beginners and introduces all concepts in a practical, accessible way. You’ll be supported as you learn both the fundamentals of coaching and the science behind behavior change.
Will I be ready to coach clients after completing the training?
Yes. The program includes practical experience through supervised coaching practice, giving you the confidence and competence to begin working with clients immediately after certification.
What happens after I complete the program?
After successfully completing the program requirements, you will receive your Certified Coach Practitioner designation and certificate.
When can I start coaching?
You can start coaching as soon as you begin the program. We encourage you to practice your coaching skills throughout your training to build confidence and experience.

Enroll in ICF 60 Certification or ICF ACC Credential Bundle below!
In the following cases, please reach out to Leah via WhatsApp (+66 96 695 9667) or via email at [email protected]:
Enrolling ICF PCC or MCC Credential
Enrolling in ICF Specialized Certifications
Strategizing your Professional Development
Enroll Now
You can enroll right away by clicking Enroll Now and completing the short form to confirm your registration. If you prefer to speak with one of our ICF Educators before joining and want clarity on the program or your learning pathway, select Schedule a Call to book a conversation at your convenience.
